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lilypad Posts: 143 Registered: 10/14/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 9:00 PM   Reply I am in Michigan - I have never heard of it but I can ask my son's therapist and get back to you.

lilypad Posts: 143 Registered: 10/14/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 9:05 PM   Reply /www.sober.com/forums/t/14568/Has+anyone+heard+of++A+Forever+Recovery+Rehab+in+Michigan+Need+InfoFeedback.aspx This web site had a couple of reviews from people who knew of it.

lilypad Posts: 143 Registered: 10/14/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 9:15 PM   Reply www.ripoffreport.com/Misc-Health-Specialists/A-Forever-Recovery/a-forever-recovery-narconon-22485.htm. This one was not positive at all. Consider the source though. Have you considered Teen Challenge? Also not 12 step - it is faith based if that is not a problem.

Molly Posts: 163 Registered: 1/12/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 10:11 PM   Reply Winnie, I don't know anything about this program, nor anyone to ask. I'm glad Lilypad gave you these online resources. You might take a look at Mountainside in Canaan, Connecticut: 28-day program with a 12-step foundation, but a very comprehensive treatment approach, and a transitional program that follows, if warranted. The number is 800/762-5433, and you can find them on the web. Good luck. I'll be thinking of you tonight.

Molly Posts: 163 Registered: 1/12/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 10:11 PM   Reply Winnie, I don't know anything about this program, nor anyone to ask. I'm glad Lilypad gave you these online resources. You might take a look at Mountainside in Canaan, Connecticut: 28-day program with a 12-step foundation, but a very comprehensive treatment approach, and a transitional program that follows, if warranted. The number is 800/762-5433, and you can find them on the web. Good luck. I'll be thinking of you tonight.

tc Posts: 71 Registered: 1/2/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 10:53 PM   Reply Winnie: I am sorry to hear about your son relapsing? My daughter's first of two inpatient rehabs at age 17 was at Phoenix House and it was Behavior Modification module. It really helped her to develop much -needed life and people skills and coping behaviors. She ended up relapsing at 18, 3 months after leaving Phoenix House and then stayed 45 days at a 12 step based center. The latter helped her learn the tools of working the recovery program; but both places did help her. I am thinking of you. Keep us posted.

tc Posts: 71 Registered: 1/2/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 10:54 PM   Reply sorry, the ? was a type in the previous post..

tc Posts: 71 Registered: 1/2/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 25, 2010 10:55 PM   Reply Ok I can't type tonight , supposed to be typo

Molly Posts: 163 Registered: 1/12/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 26, 2010 11:08 AM   Reply TC, that made me laugh - "type" being another typo - and it's so GOOD to laugh! Winnie, how are you? Others here know much more about relapse than I, since my boy is now in his first ever inpatient rehab program. But I can imagine the feelings, and I'm already looking ahead and very fearful. Have been thinking about you and your son since last night. Please keep us posted.

Molly Posts: 163 Registered: 1/12/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 26, 2010 11:11 AM   Reply I see now that my post last night double posted. Ugh. Are we still malfunctioning? Wondering if Deb's larger technological problems are continuing.

lilypad Posts: 143 Registered: 10/14/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 26, 2010 10:24 PM   Reply Winnie - how are things going? I haven't heard back from Chris' therapist. Hope you are doing okay. Hang in there - our thoughts are with you.

waterdance Posts: 624 Registered: 6/10/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 27, 2010 12:28 PM   Reply Good Morning Willie, Good Morning All, Willie, Please let us know how you are and what's happening with your son. How long has it been since you heard from your daughter? As you probally know I don't hear nor see my oldest daughter. I have two friends that have kids that they don't see nor hear from. Is this more common than we think? THinking of you, Deb

Winnie Posts: 105 Registered: 9/26/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 3, 2010 11:56 AM   Reply Good morning all, Our son apprears to have a new addiction - sport betting - not surprising as he loves sports especially hockey. His drug test was clean - so this time i got myself worked up - but not for nothing. We are being very careful as his betting is bad behavior which COULD be a start of a relasp. I will not over react - but i will have my "mommy radar" up. We have not had contact we our daughter and husband since Dec 27 - i think she might of called us once - based on call display on our phone - no message so we did not phone back. It is quite interesting that you asked me this as i was just thinking of buying some Easter treats and leaving them at her front door. I do not think there is anyone that loves chocolate more than her. I have also had a rough couple of days as it is Easter tomorrow and we are invited to Easter brunch with friends and our son (the addict) does not want to go as none of our friends have kids his age and of course our daughter and husband will not be there. I told my husband that i did not feel up to going and why and he got a little upset with me. I do see his point - so i will put on my happy face "which my therapist says i am not fooling anyone" and do my best. Once again i will leave my remark "I hate addiction" Happy Easter to all of you and take care

JLP2 Posts: 64 Registered: 2/22/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Mar 26, 2010 9:46 PM   Reply Winnie, My son is currently at Project Turnabout in Granite Falls, Minnesota and it has been a very good experience. He told me last night that it is by far the best program he has been through. The extended care program is 90 days and they help them transition to a half way house if they feel it is needed. It is more structured then any program we'd found which has been good. Teen Challenge is very structured also and their program is 13 months. I've heard good things. I wish you well in the decisions ahead. Take care of yourself.

lori-in-irvine Posts: 109 Registered: 11/29/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 2, 2010 6:04 PM   Reply Winnie, GIve me your email address, there's some info I'd like to share with you that night help

Fatima Posts: 125 Registered: 12/30/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 3, 2010 2:12 PM   Reply Hi Winnie, Hope things are better for you and your son. My son tried Teen Challenge but it wasn't for him, too long and not a 12 step program. I've heard great things about the Salvation Army, their program is 6 to 9 months, a 12 step program and it's free! I don't know if you're paying through your insurance, if not, then check out the Salvation Army. Also there The Dream Center in California and Missouri, both 1 year Christian based programs like Teen Challenge (free). Hope this helps.. I'll keep you in my prayers! Happy Easter

Molly Posts: 163 Registered: 1/12/10 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 3, 2010 3:30 PM   Reply Winnie, thank you for letting us know the status. I'm finding it difficult when people disappear from the forum, particularly after intense involvement. Ann, for example, was a long, active participant, and for me, although we overlapped here only briefly, a comforting presence. Momma wrote a lot when her son was in rehab and then transitioning to a new program; we haven't heard from her in awhile. Sometimes it's hard to write. Sometimes it's hard to read. I understand these absences. Anyway, Winnie, you're right to keep that Mommy eye on your son's new problem. I hope you can have a happy Easter. Personally, I stay away from events that can hurt me. I feel a strong need to protect myself as much as possible. But sometimes getting out can help.

Winnie Posts: 105 Registered: 9/26/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 3, 2010 8:02 PM   Reply This brunch should not hurt me. If it was with different "friends" - the ones that think they can cure addiction and told me to start drinking and smoking pot i would loosen up - that would put me in a bad mood for quite a while. This might just be sad as all my family will not be there - but the good news is i do like to eat. My husband and i did leave an easter basket at our daughters front door this afternoon. My husband said he was not ready to talk to her yet - so i just left it outside her door and went back to my car. I did make a gesture so we will see how that goes.

Winnie Posts: 105 Registered: 9/26/09 Re: Please Respond ASAP anyone logged on Posted: Apr 5, 2010 3:33 PM   Reply When will i learn. I decided along time ago until you have been through addiction with someone you love - especially a child - you do not really understand - so i let most comments slide and chalk it up to "they are just trying to help" (other than the one family - who are incredibly insensitive and judgmental) But yesterday at brunch they are planning a trip to Ireland and i do not feel comfortable going if something was to happen it could take me quite a while to get home. Yes i know i need to detach - yes i know i cannot cure or control the situation but i guess i am not there in my recovery. My husband says we will have no friends left if i do not go to these things - i was so close yesterday to slamming my fists on the table and saying a few things but i did not because once again they do not get it. Telling me i need a back up plan (i always have one and the husband is it they will be in Ireland with us and our daughter does not want anything to with us) - i should just smack him if i had to leave and come home (i thought that was a fairly stupid remark) I think what upset me the most was my husband did not support me. All he had to say was my wife has yet to make a decision. He just let me sit there and get fired questions at and told what to do. But what i did learn from yesterday is that the other couple that was there never judged me and the situation i am struggling with. I should see the wife at hot yoga today and i am going to personally thank her for not pressuring me and just let me make a decision when i feel comfortable doing so. Thanks so much for letting me vent - it certainly seems i need to do that way to often.